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Artificial intelligence is no longer just a Silicon Valley fascination, a share market story, or something happening off in the distance. It is becoming a force that could reshape work, productivity, innovation, and the way whole economies function - and one of the companies at the centre of that shift is Anthropic, the maker of Claude. Peter McCrory is Anthropic’s chief economist. His job is to make sense of how this technology is being used by, and its impact on, workers, firms, and the economy right now. At the same time, his boss, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei, has become one of the loudest and most alarming voices in AI - warning that half of white-collar jobs could disappear within five years, and that the risks are far bigger than most governments or businesses are treating them. Alan puts that tension directly to McCrory: where he falls between the company’s warnings, the real-world data, and the possibility of AI becoming not just another tool, but a machine for accelerating innovation itself. Peter McCrory and Alan Kohler unpack it all on That's Business with Alan Kohler. Got a burning business question? Send a short voice recording to the ABC Business Daily team at abcbusinessdaily@abc.net.au

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Anthropic’s Chief Economist, Peter McCrory, explores the tension between AI-driven economic productivity and the alarming existential forecasts of rapid white-collar job displacement. The discussion highlights the dual nature of frontier AI like Claude, which acts simultaneously as a catalyst for innovation and a potential source of large-scale societal instability if risks are not managed. The content addresses how high-capability AI models may lead to catastrophic labor market shifts, necessitating proactive global and Australian policy frameworks to mitigate disruptive economic harms.

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